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    bsavage
    Phase I ESA training / common ground University
    Topic posted August 30, 2010 by bsavageContributor, last edited January 19, 2012
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    Phase I ESA training / common ground University
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    Considering the location of this forum, I feel the need to sort of tread lightly.  Here goes:

    I just got a flier via US Mail announcing ASTM E1527 online training.  The flier appears to be from ASTM (which makes sense) and common ground Univerity.

    Is anyone besides me just the least bit bothered that ASTM and EDR are teaming up to sell this training?  Isn't ASTM supposed to be an independent not-for-profit organization?

    And who's making the (not-for-profit) profits from the training?

    Just curious!

    Peace,

    Bruce Savage

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    • JHuntress
      posted September 1, 2010 by JHuntressSuper Contributor

      Bruce – Thank you for the post.  This is certainly worthy of comment.  I’d offer a few things and I know that Scott Murphy at ASTM would be glad to address this as well.  EDR approached ASTM about a year ago this month with this concept.  In our conversations we discussed how ASTM has been trying to launch a successful online training program for a number of years and has looked to several for profit partnering companies in the past to do just this.  It is my read that the platform EDR offers gave ASTM a low risk opportunity to try this out again because we had already created a couple courses that were doing well online.  This was a very much shared risk/shared revenue venture.  The revenue that ASTM generates from the courses they provide is vital to the sustainment of the overall organization and the compensation for the instructors, and the revenue that EDR generates supports the platform, the software and the delivery.   A cornerstone benefit is that the industry has more opportunity to get educated on the protocols, which was the whole objective in the first place.   It is my personal belief that everyone benefits from a better educated market.

    • MappersDelight
      posted September 1, 2010 by MappersDelightMember

      I am not really a fan of the pairing.

    • jessedphillips
      posted September 2, 2010 by jessedphillipsElite Contributor

      Is this a surprise?  Just another instance of EDR's master plan of cornering the market.

    • Scott J. Dahlgren
      posted September 3, 2010 by Scott J. DahlgrenContributor

      I understand ASTM's business reasons, but I am not a fan of this pairing either...