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  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by dcrocker

    Great post. I have stats from 2 surveys we did that might help.
    1. April 1Q09 state of Phase I survey of EPs:
    - 46% saw more foreclosure work in 1Q09 vs 4Q08
    - types of EDD being provided on foreclosures (no stats b/c it was open ended ques): most said standard Ph I/ASTM scope with some Ph II work and even remediation in some cases. Very few said less than a Ph I or updates. A few noted adding asbestos, LBP for foreclosures to be purchased by another party.
    2. 2009 Benchmarking Survey of Financial Institutions (conducted in April):
    - 30% of lenders indicated they use a different scope of work for foreclosures vs. new loan originations/refinancing

    Hope this helps.

    Anyone else have anecdotes to share on scopes being used on pre-foreclosures, biggest challenges?

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Regulations

    Submitted by LSchnapf


    EPA issued a press release on proper application of pesticides. Here is the text:

    Growers Reminded to Apply Pesticides Properly

     

    Contact Information: Kris Lancaster, (913) 551-7557, lancaster.kris@epa.gov


    Environmental News

     

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

     

    (Kansas City, Kan., May 27, 2009) - EPA is reminding growers and pesticide applicators to pay attention to label requirements when applying pesticides to crops near harvest time.

     

    “All pesticide label instructions need to be followed and it’s especially important that pesticides are applied the proper number of days before harvest,” said Jamie Green, Chief of EPA’s Region 7 Toxics and Pesticides Branch in Kansas City. “EPA and our state regulatory partners want to avoid a repeat of the situation faced by a number of Kansas and Nebraska wheat growers in 2008. A late season fungicide application contributed to delayed harvests by some growers in order to ensure compliance with federal regulations.”

     

    Growers and pesticide applicators may both be held responsible for assuring compliance with pre-harvest intervals and other post-application requirements. The waiting period, listed as a pre-harvest interval on pesticide labels, is the minimum number of days a grower must wait before harvesting a treated crop.

     

    EPA and our state partners are responsible for ensuring compliance with pesticide label directions.

    Failure to follow label instructions is a violation of federal and state pesticide laws.

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by BlackRockEnv

    I have a problem with consultants who are willing to stick their client's neck out while limiting their own liability

    So you believe EP's should take on $1,000,000 in liability for all Phase I Assessments?  Make sure you bring that up at your next ASTM training seminar.  See what kind of response you get from the instructors and the audience.

    The client hired an EP to assess the potential RECs on a property.  The EP found an REC, and decided verbally with their client that the identified REC was not a big risk.  The EP then concluded that this was not an REC.  The EP simply limits their liability in the contract with the client, and I assume that none of this is clear in the report. 


    The client was informed the former UST system was an "Historic REC" in which the state regulatory agency required no further action and it was addressed as such in the Opinions and Findings sections of the report.  The file review and interviews conducted indicate the UST did not leak and minor residual soil contamination was identified under a leaky joint which was properly excavated.  I informed the client that since I was not present during the UST removal, I could not guarantee everything was as described.  Since a PG signed off on the UST closure report and met with the state regulatory agency regarding the residual contamination, the client and I discussed the low risk factor associated with the former UST system and that the historic REC was not a current REC. 

    The client is now looking to pass the liability onto a lender and is seeling the Phase I to the SBA as a Phase I done by an EP.  Only when SBA asks for reliance do they find out that the EP is not willing to stand behind the Phase I, and only has liability coverage for the cost of the Phase I.  This is like hiring an electrician to replace an outlet, and if his error causes a fire, he is only liable for the $100 he was paid.


    First of all, I do have a million dollar E&O policy.  Secondly, here is my take on your analogy...This is like hiring an electrician to review a building's electrical system to determine the risk of an electrical fire.  The electrician can only see what is visible to the naked eye and cannot remove walls/ceilings/floors to assess the hidden electrical system.  The electrician tells the client that a section of the building has outdated knob and tube wiring.  This type of wiring has a higher risk of electrical fires and does not meet today’s new construction codes; however, it is in compliance with the law.  The client tells the electrician that he understands the risk associated with the older electrical wiring but that he is not concerned.  The electrician was not hired to physically touch or fix any of the electrical system but to merely advise the client of its condition.  The client then wants the electrician to take responsibility for up to $1,000,000 in damages if any electrical fire occurs any time in the future anywhere on the property, including locations hidden in walls/ceilings/floors that the electrician was unable to assess.

    This is how consultants get away with cheap work, and why buyers and sellers do not trust EPs. 


    Your opinion is way out of line.  Evidently, I’m not alone in my take on SBA’s demands… http://www.cenews.com/print.asp?id=2965

     

    If you are not willing to stand behind your work, then why not advertise that you will "say any site is clean and offer a full money back guarantee if your property is determined to be a superfund site in the future"


    I am more than willing to stand behind my work, just not behind the work of others.  If you’re willing to tell me where you bought your crystal ball, I’d then be willing to declare every site I work on “clean”.

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by Archanes

    I have a problem with consultants who are willing to stick their client's neck out while limiting their own liability

    The client hired an EP to assess the potential RECs on a property. The EP found an REC, and decided verbally with their client that the identified REC was not a big risk.  The EP then concluded that this was not an REC. The EP simply limits their liability in the contract with the client, and I assume that none of this is clear in the report. 

    The client is now looking to pass the liability onto a lender and is seeling the Phase I to the SBA as a Phase I done by an EP.  Only when SBA asks for reliance do they find out that the EP is not willing to stand behind the Phase I, and only has liability coverage for the cost of the Phase I. This is like hiring an electrician to replace an outlet, and if his error causes a fire, he is only liable for the $100 he was paid.

    This is how consultants get away with cheap work, and why buyers and sellers do not trust EPs.  If you are not willing to stand behind your work, then why not advertise that you will "say any site is clean and offer a full money back guarantee if your property is determined to be a superfund site in the future

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by BlackRockEnv

    No I don't pass on their work.  The first thing I ask my client is whether they are getting an SBA loan.  If so, I let them know that my risk is elevated and that additional work may be recommended to alleviate my liability in addition to satisfying the requirements of the ASTM standard.  I'll give you an example...

    In March 2009, I performed a Phase I on a commercial building formerly used as a distribution center for a dairy company (basically a large insulated/air conditioned warehouse).  The property was in very good shape in which an historic REC was identified.  It was a 10,000-gallon UST system used to provide fuel for the distribution trucks.  The UST was removed in 1994 with some residual contamination identified in the site soils.  The tank contractor hired an environmental consultant who, in agreement with the state regulatory agency, found no cause for additional soil/groundwater investigation.

    As this was NOT an SBA loan and the property was connected to the public water system, the buyer exhibited little business environmental risk (the buyer and I personally discussed the risk associated with the former UST).  Therefore, I did not recommend any additional work related to the former UST system.

    I recently received an email from a financial institution that the buyer was looking to get an SBA loan and that I needed to sign a reliance letter along with providing a copy of my $1,000,000 liability insurance certificate.  I also must agree to waive "any dollar amount limitations on liability up to $1,000,000".  Furthermore, "Environmental Professional and Environmental Professional’s firm waive any right to indemnification from the Lender and SBA."

    Now I am in a bind with the SBA.  I do not want to hold up a loan or prevent it from going though for the client.  But I am unwilling to take on liability that was not agreed upon in the initial contract.  If I were told up front that this was an SBA loan, I would have recommended soil borings and monitoring wells to confirm no soil and/or groundwater impact occurred at the site.  Now I have to weight the client's business environmental risk with my own. 

    SBA is changing the way the ASTM standard is being employed.  After talking with colleagues in other consulting firms, it seems that more and more EP's are calling anything and everything a REC and recommending additional work during the completion of Phase I's to limit their personal liability when an SBA loan is being sought.

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by AmyH

    A ha. So do you pass on any SBA-related work?

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by BlackRockEnv

    As an EP and owner of a small business, I refuse to sign an SBA reliance letter.

    When ASTM offers their Phase I training, the first thing they tell you is that you should not take any liability over the cost of the Phase I and make sure that this is negotiated up front.  SBA in turn wants an EP to sign a letter that they are willing to take on up to $1,000,000 in liability for a $2,500 Phase I.  As an EP (particularly an practicing professional geologist who speicalizes in soil and groundwater remediation projects), I inform the clients up front (and in my contract) that I did not cause the contamination on the property and I will not be liable for the cleanup of such. 

    My insurance company has indicated that SBA is merely attempting to lock into a free $1,000,000 insurance policy.  Furthermore, my insurance company has informed me that if I sign the SBA reliance letter, my insurance premium will raise due to the liability I would assume over the life of the loan.

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by AmyH -

    Derek,

    Why are EPs unwilling to sign the reliance letter, and what can be done in that case?

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by CGoss - Nevada is the primary one. Several other states have attempted to follow Nevada's lead (such as Arkansas) but they have repealed their rules.

  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by tryoncw - I don't think you can say that every UST is a REC.  Paraphrasing ASTM, a REC is the "presence or likely presence of (blah, blah) under conditions that indicate a... release." Since not all USTs leak, whether to call a UST a REC seems to depend on the EPs professional judgment. A newer system, registered, with all the bells and whistles may not be a REC. The same system without evidence of proper maintenance could be indicative of a release. 

    The question is: Does it really matter?  If you don't consider a release to be likely, you discuss the possibility and likelihood with the client, and include sound rationale supporting your opinion in the report your client will have no grounds for complaint. If recommendations are included in your scope of work, you'd need to discuss with the client in any case in order to make recommendations appropriate to their needs - and there's nothing to prevent recommending a phase II even if you don't identify the UST as a REC.


  • Admin
    posted June 3, 2009 in Discussions > Environmental Due Diligence

    Submitted by EdG - Last year I was an expert witness for a portfolio of distressed properties involving contamination and due diligence, etc.  I have an article that gives an overview of "Environmental Best Practices for Commercial Real Estate Lenders" (2006) that discusses due diligence.

    Advanced Technology Corporation vs. Eliskim, Inc. (2000) discusses "innocent landowner defense" (all appropriate inquiry, etc.) regarding a property purchased in 1993 and another party seeking contribution for cleanup in 1997.

    I am familiar with a few other cases that discuss due diligence prior to ASTM 1527-93 - but would need to do some research.

    Ed